(Doing) Alien heavy damage effects

Yaluzan
3786
Admin Abuse
Posts
174
Location
Netherlands
Joined
18 November 2012
14 April 2016 - 03:40 EDT
#1
https://trello.com/c/yFZxCa2M/150-alien-heavy-damage-effects
Card owner: Remi
Description:"Help rookies know when to retreat by making very obvious heavy damage effects. We could tweak the trigger point (maybe immediately after losing armor, or when hitting 600hp as onos). It could also be intelligent, and take into account the speed at which you are taking damage and not just your current health (so it would tell you to run faster vs 6 marines than 3). Sound effect, more intense shader, etc."

Remi: "kLowHealthWarning = 0.35 currently. I think this is long after aliens need to retreat, typically. Not sure if we should just change this threshold or have a secondary effect."

As it says above, it is meant to clearly warn players about when to get out, This is why I ask all of you to give health/armor values for each lifeform for when YOU would get out as fast as possible. You can think of scenarios like " two marines with lmgs and i'm on 20 armor as fade" or something.
BauerJankins
5841
nazi hunter izO
Posts
368
Location
Paderborn, Germany
Joined
20 October 2013
14 April 2016 - 04:09 EDT
#2
(Change threshold, no secondary effect)
Lerk -> when armor is gone
Fade -> on 200 HP
Onos -> when armor is gone
Obviously depending heavily on the number of marines nearby. But since this is designed for pubs you'll usually receive a high amount of burst damage when marines are nearby, at least as onos. For the fade you'll be focused less and it's always safe to leave on 200HP. In my opinion, anything lower than that is not even worth the health warning because you can just get blasted by a sg or 2lmgs. For the lerk it's hard to tell, but considering that it only has like 140HP total it should leave when losing all its armor, else you'll lose all da pub lerks.
http://i.imgur.com/hr1ud2u.png
Malware
5875
Posts
48
Location
Earth
Joined
20 November 2013
14 April 2016 - 08:12 EDT
#3
BauerJankins says

Lerk -> when armor is gone
For the lerk it's hard to tell, but considering that it only has like 140HP total it should leave when losing all its armor, else you'll lose all da pub lerks.

As a lerk player. I'm agreeing with this, but the warning should come to an effect at a still safe I-need-to-get-the-fuck-out-here zone. Like at 10-ish armor remaining imo.

Also "Sound effect, more intense shader, etc." please god no. I would rather not have a "sound (insert airhorn.mp3)" or "flashy shaders" to tell me when i'm about to die a horrible and painful death.
tudy
5568
Posts
169
Location
Germany
Joined
30 June 2013
14 April 2016 - 09:13 EDT
#4
Malware says

Also "Sound effect, more intense shader, etc." please god no. I would rather not have a "sound (insert airhorn.mp3)" or "flashy shaders" to tell me when i'm about to die a horrible and painful death.


There recently was a discusion, that the devs don't want everything new to be as a toggle. There are some good arguments for that and I agree.

This one seems to aim at newer players especially, although, depending on how it is implemented it might help veterans as well. From that point of view making it a toggle would make sense.

On the other side one could also argue, that the OP becomes an actual game mechanic: a hurt lifeform *is* hurt - limited sight, impaired hearing etc... That ties in with balancing, though. Hurt lifeforms, which are by definition low already, might die easier, if the player receives less info. In that case a toggle would make no sense obviously. One would also have to think about doing something similar for the marines then - just for consistency.

I personally think implementing it as a game mechanic would be quite interesting. As it gives hooks and loops to tie in other mechanics (bring the painkillers :P ). Obviously it requires more work and care, though.
Ixian
6200
Posts
110
Location
Denmark
Joined
16 March 2014
16 April 2016 - 08:04 EDT
#5
It would be cool if you could decide at which point that warning would come in. Some players like it fast, some like it once they are very close to dying. Not sure how it would be implemented though. Lifeform specific total life set in the same way sensitivity can be set?
"It is wisdom to recognize necessity, when all other courses have been weighed, despite as folly it may appear to those who cling to false hope" - J.R.R. Tolkien
Vindaloo
4231
Posts
204
Location
Czechia
Joined
10 December 2012
18 April 2016 - 05:29 EDT
#6
I would like this to be sound cue, one distinguishable "ding", like you have hit sounds. Setup-able by players from 0.0-1.0 of total HP with defaults stated by bauer. It would be clear and crisp and had no affect on your senses afterwards, like obfuscating shaders and impaired hearing. pls not more of those.
Bicsum
2710
Heidis Bergziegen
Posts
93
Location
Europe
Joined
19 April 2012
18 April 2016 - 06:15 EDT
#7
+1 Ixian



New Reply