what happend with the rule that make argentinian teams play bouth maps on usa?
i think it was included in season 13

he means this:
http://www.ensl.org/articles/494

4. Server

1. Teams make a decision about the server in same time when they shedule the game. (Teams have to agree on 1 server)
2. Teams should check the server before choosing it, there's quite little ENSL can do if you suddenly get connection problems once the match is started.
3. Server changes can only take place between the rounds and by agreement of both teams & referee. If the round is in progress, finish it before leaving the team or doing anything else radical.
4. In case of server crash, the round in progress gets replayed.
5. Each game versus "250 da ping" and "Demonic Soul" should be played on server located in USA.

yep, so?

'Snail'yep, so?

Season Admin

* Final decisions for all rules and administration actions (only if necessary for smaller decisions at admin discretion). e.g. this post.

so, speak with tom, danny or tweadle. I would say, you should first try to contact tom...

'bHack'

so, speak with tom, danny or tweadle. I would say, you should first try to contact tom...

tom told me to post here 2 days ago, and 10 days ago jiriki told me it was ok, so i imagine just the rule is missing

1. Teams make a decision about the server in same time when they shedule the game. (Teams have to agree on 1 server)

This involves where the server is, talk to the other CL of your match. I don't want to force both maps to be played in America tbh, but I prefer even pings to play a league match so I'd suggest both maps on America unless the other CL demands not or something (500ms player or smth)

'tomato'1. Teams make a decision about the server in same time when they shedule the game. (Teams have to agree on 1 server)

This involves where the server is, talk to the other CL of your match. I don't want to force both maps to be played in America tbh, but I prefer even pings to play a league match so I'd suggest both maps on America unless the other CL demands not or something (500ms player or smth)
and what team will agree to play in america with 120-150 ping when they can play in europe with 20? in the best of the cases we get 1 map america and another in europe, like in season 12, and thats a shit
also in usa we are under ping disadvantage (200 vs 150), play 300 vs 20 just make no sense
that rule was for some kind of protection for us, if not all teams will say "bla bla this is a shit, we cant play like this, lets go europe", and that happend all along season 12
btw, no one got problems during season 13 and playing at usa server, so i dont know why this rule can become a problem

i hope you can include that rule, and sory for the bad english

Please re-consider that rule.......

'Snail'
and what team will agree to play in america with 120-150 ping when they can play in europe with 20?

no one got problems during season 13 and playing at usa server
You have conflicting arguments here. ^ The rule is to protect European clans because this is a European league.

I've already explained, ~300ms is NOT playable for some Euro clans in America, I'm not going to force anyone to play in those conditions without good reason to.

I don't see the problem, you can still play both maps in America, and it's even encouraged that this happens.

'fitoX'Please re-consider that rule.......
That's why I told you to post this thread. :)

add clantag rule !

'tomato'
You have conflicting arguments here. ^ The rule is to protect European clans because this is a European league.



i dont see any conflicting arguemtns there, i just say that everybody will prefere to play with 30ms instead 130, but the season that ping rule was on no one got any big problems like geting 300ping in USA server (dont think thats possible)i mean, we are not asking to play on arg against euros :/

and if the rule is going to stay like this i want to be sure that it should be a real reason for not playing bouth maps on usa and not just a preference for having low ping

thanks for the answer and sory for my english again

The arguments that conflict are: you're saying people have a problem and do not have a problem at the same time.
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I spent the last season playing from South Korea with over 300ms in Europe.

The season before, I was playing from SK with other Koreans on american servers, many russians had big problems there, some others had problems there too.

Anyway, where do the rules say you have to play on Euro servers?

'tomato'
Anyway, where do the rules say you have to play on Euro servers?

well, i imagine cuz is an euro league ""default"" server was euro

lets see what happen during season, maybe we dont have any troubles

There are no defaults, we try to find the best server for both teams in the match.

I think how Danny and noway did in last season with matches against Argentians being played on EvolveNS with even pings was just fine but that's only my 5cents.

Also I think you should say how it works in the season rules as there's nothing more distinctive in the general rules.

I like toms aproach .. the more wiggleroom the more Drama so we have MORE FUN ! ;) !

well... now, when the time is right, i can get out the whip and have it my way baby!

'jiriki'I think how Danny and noway did in last season with matches against Argentians being played on EvolveNS with even pings was just fine but that's only my 5cents.



evolve is a pub now, but we have another 2 servers hosted by apollo that works perfectly fine

UH whipping that sounds supernasty and nice at the same time ;) !

'Snail'
evolve is a pub now, but we have another 2 servers hosted by apollo that works perfectly fine
xtinction pug servers? i think evolve got better rooting/ping. But mgiht be wrong...

'bHack'
xtinction pug servers? i think evolve got better rooting/ping. But mgiht be wrong...

yep, well, it works good for us and the owner is an active player, so any problems i can told him directly, but if you can contact asmodee (we try but cant) is ok for us too

if you wanna check ping or ensl plugin (its on in bouth servers) or w/e this are the ips of xtinction pug servers
173.208.131.162:27017
173.208.131.162:27015

we already did play there(well we = mix, that we had) vs americans. I had 200ping. Others 160-180~~. Not so great huh. And americans got 120-150ping on euro servers...

bHack we also have 200-250 of ping in USA

'bHack'we already did play there(well we = mix, that we had) vs americans. I had 200ping. Others 160-180~~. Not so great huh. And americans got 120-150ping on euro servers...
we are not americans :p, we get 300+ in euro and like fitox says we got 200+ in usa

No one had troubles playing on US server vs. the koreans last season afaik. I'd vote for doing it again.

And since euros still have better ping on US than koreans, there is no advantage for them.

*edit: replace koreans with argentinians ;)

is there any compromise for americans?

I would say since all the ppl from USA believe the are Number One in anything u should not get the advantage of playing in ur or so beloved country! .....

OR .. READ THE RULES! AGREE ON A SERVER WITH OTHER TEAMCAPTAIN OR TEAMADMIN ! wth ppl pls l2read !

I hear TeamICE still have a server in Iceland...

sublimes avatar is buggy... look.. it stops every 5 seconds!

tomatoI don't see the problem, you can still play both maps in America, and it's even encouraged that this happens.
EisTeeOR .. READ THE RULES! AGREE ON A SERVER WITH OTHER TEAMCAPTAIN OR TEAMADMIN ! wth ppl pls l2read !

done.